Old Testament

old testament

I recently received an update from twitter telling me that I had a new follower. His/her name? The Deconversion Movement. I found it interesting for a number of reasons. Most interestingly, one wonders why Christians are castigated by pro-evolution-“freethinkers” for using religion as a “crutch” when this would actually be a good thing if evolution is true. After all, if false beliefs help a given species perpetuate its existence, then shouldn’t false beliefs be given a greater utilitarian value than true beliefs? In fact, shouldn’t we cease to even be concerned about “T”ruth? Nietzsche certainly seemed to think so (albeit he did so in clear contradiction to his pantheistic ramblings about “Nature” and “Life” and “The Will to Power”).

But I’m digressing from my original intention in posting this.

What follows is the original argument and my analysis of it.

The Problem of Child Murder and Infanticide in modal form:

P1 Any being that commanded the murder of children is not perfectly good.

P2 Any being that promised to murder innocent children is not perfectly good.

P3 Any being that carries out a promise to murderer innocent children is not perfectly good.

P4 Yahweh commanded the murder of children, promised to murder children and carried out promises to murder children.

C Therefore, Yahweh is not perfectly good.

[After giving some Scripture references in support of P4, he goes on to argue:]

P6 A being that isn’t perfectly good cannot be an absolute lawgiver.

P7 Yahweh isn’t perfectly good.

C Therefore, Yahweh is not an absolute lawgiver.

This is an argument that is completely straw manned each and every time. As one can see, my argument is not the Problem of Evil or the Problem of Suffering — both of which rely on contemporary events.  The OT is comprised of mythological events in my opinion; however, if anyone dares to believe in a celestial ethnic cleanser and child murderer, the burden is on them to absolve him of his crimes — so much so that it is beyond reasonable doubt.  That implies that your explanation has to be good enough for an atheist to accept it.  It is something that you or any Christian cannot do.”1

There are a number of very basic problems with this person’s argument, not the least of which is his/her unaccounted-for authority to make moral judgments, let alone absolute2 moral judgments. But here I will deal with the fallacies and false premises contained in this argument.

  1. Children or Innocent Children?

Of course, this could be a simple error on the writer’s part. Nevertheless, the argument that he/she gives tells us about two classes of children: (a.)children (P1 & P4), and (b.)innocent children (P2 & P3). This seems to be due to sloppiness on the author’s part, but this sloppiness helps us identify what his underlying assumption is: Children are innocent. This, however, is false. According to Scripture, all persons are born in sin and held accountable to God for their thoughts, words, and deeds. Children are persons. Therefore, children are born in sin and held accountable for their thoughts, words, and deeds. Sin incurs guilt; children sin; therefore, children incur guilt. Leaving aside questions of God’s mercy toward infants, the simple response is this: All persons are guilty before God.

  1. Category Error: God Cannot Command Murder

If the author’s attempt is to show that God is not perfectly good (see, P4 & C), he should not do so by attempting to identify God as a “murderer.” The term is not defined by the author, so I’ll use Webster’s definition. According to Merriam-Webster, murder is “the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought.”3 If God has judged all persons as guilty of sin and worthy of death, which He has (cf. Rom 5:12), and God is the judge of all the earth, can He be charged with unlawfully taking the life of another being? The author commits a category error by attempting to accuse God of murder: Because God is the judge of all the earth, and because He clearly identifies His actions as judgments on those whom He has identified as worthy of such punishments, there is no rational justification for the author’s identification of God’s actions as “murder.”

  1. Absolute Law-Giver Has Reference to Authority, not Moral Character

Having established the invalidity and unsoundness of the first part of the atheist author’s argument, I’ll go on to deal with the second part. This part of the argument also fails, as an examination of the first premise given (i.e. P6) shows. This proposition is confused and, well, false. It is confused because the category of “absolute law giver” has reference to the authority of the person identified as such; it does not have reference to the moral character of the person who possesses such authority to be the absolute law-giver. In the second place, it is false because an absolute law-giver needs only to have the authority to give an absolute law in order to hold men accountable to his commands. This is not to say that God’s commands are arbitrary, far from it! However, it is to say that regarding the logical possibility of there existing an absolute law-giver who is himself not perfectly good the atheist is simply wrong.


The atheist’s argument is fallacious and unsound. It is fallacious because (i.)it commits a category error when identifying God’s execution of justice as murder, (ii.)P6 is an example of a non-sequitur and, therefore, invalidates the entire argument as well. The argument is unsound because it posits the existence of “innocent children,” and Yahweh tells us that no person is righteous. The argument, therefore, is once again shown to be a bad one.

Comment: Are attacks on the Old Testament to be seen as Anti-Semitic? Hell is eternal.



Paedocrite (noun) – A paedocrite is someone who accuses other men of paedophilia in order to deflect attention away from their own sexual interest in children. It is estimated that somewhere in the region of 70 – 95% of vociferous and obsessive ‘paedo-hunters’ on the web are, in fact, hardcore paedocrites.


This story reminds me that I’ve been planning to hold a poll contest here for some time – ‘Who Is The Biggest Paedocrite In The World?‘. Candidates will include people like this – ‘pedo hunters’, ‘child porn experts’, and crusading politicians – who have been busted for abusing children, or otherwise revealed an unhealthy and hypocritical sexual interest in children. Please nominate any paedocrites you know of that you think should be included in the poll in the comments section below. Early nominations include :

Infamous senator Mark Foley, who legislated against non-nude teen models as child porn before being caught talking dirty on MSN to his underage male interns. (for some reason, the worst paedocrites tend to be pederasts).

Male feminist and anti-porn crusador Kyle Payne, jailed for filming himself molesting a sleeping schoolgirl under his protection, and then for downloading kiddy porn whilst on probation.

Male feminist David Futrelle, a pedofinder general who accuses others of paedophilia for criticising paedo-hysteria, whilst having spent much of his early career penning articles that did exactly that (in a much more cack-handed manner than anything that’s appeared on this site). He has also described a grown man’s fantasy of sexually assaulting a boy in a bar as ‘tender’ and ‘erotic’.


I’d like to nominate Rupert Murdoch. NewsCorp and the flacks who work for him have probably fanned more paedohysteria than anybody else. This is guy under investigation in Britain for allegedly hacking a missing 13 yr/old girl’s phone so that he could alarm the country with sensationalism. His TV commentators routinely call for internet censorship, raising the age of consent, and paedohysteria generally, while he profits off internet porn and entertainment shows depicting ‘underage’ women as central characters.

Murdoch’s henchmen in the Us include White Knight pundits like Bill O’Reilly who practically instigated an armed assault on a Mormon compound in Texas based solely on false accusations. O’Reilly himself has been the target of accusations: all swept under the rug by Murdoch.

Another of his guys is Geraldo Rivera, who probably more than anybody else fanned the flames of ‘ritual abuse’ back in the 90s which led to the Wenatchee Sex Ring Scandal that brought the whole witch-hunt to an end. Hundreds of people were falsely accused and imprisoned (only to be exonerated later). Yet Rivera was seen posing for photo-ops in Afghanistan with teenaged soldiers and ‘liberated’ Afghan girls (but you won’t find any pictures of those anywhere anymore) LOL.

And speaking of Afghanistan, Murdoch went after Julian Assange and Bradley Manning after WikiLeaks exposed the US government and media people ‘entertaining’ underage guests at parties. But that didn’t stop FoxNews from earlier falsely accusing Scott Ritter, a US Iraqi Weapons Inspector who denied WMDs in that country, of a liason with an unnamed ’14 y/o girl whom he met online.’


And remember guys – please use the term ‘paedocrite’ as often as you can in forums, in comments on other sites etc. Let’s try to turn it into a powerful meme

And add Jan Teijn to that. We oblige and will spread the paedocrite meme as much as possible. Let’s face it, 50-year old women may be nice to have sex with, fertile they aren’t. And many religious groups abuse the fight against paedophilia to fight fornication. Fornication may be destructive, but I don’t see the need for dishonesty; Christians pride themselves in not using taqiyya.